This blogspot has been inspired by Lekey Dorji's comment to me on facebook, reproduced below.
"I am a co-opt member of academic board of the RUB and I find that there is no coherence and common understanding of GNH in education...I am sure national consultants will have to take the lead in our own home-grown concept of GNH...I am not into and will never be...I like something concrete , measurable.....could never become an expert in this thing....good luck aum Tshering!"
I am more a believer of ‘individual happiness’ than GNH, but would definitely like to find a link between the two in measurable terms – for fulfillment of my own curiosity as a citizen. Personally, I do not believe happiness should be equated with contentment in remaining small or having little (as many are interpreting), but rather being able to cope with life’s challenges undeterred in any endeavour of one’s choice (whether getting rich/wealthy/prosperous materially or getting rich spiritually or both in terms of acquiring as well as giving). However, individual happiness:
• should NOT make people selfish or greedy and be led into exploitation and deprivation of others’ happiness (in the guise of employment opportunity, poverty alleviation, GNH pillars, etc) from ‘human rights’ point of view.
• should NOT make us lose connection with family, friends, community and society from ‘citizenship’ point of view.
I believe each of us is as much a member of family, friends, community, and society as much as a citizen and an individual. Everybody knows that, but many may not necessarily pay attention to all of it, therefore, look at happiness as ‘subjective’ when in actual fact it makes better sense as a combination of (rather balance between) subjective and relative. To be able to embody all these roles in ONE is the challenge of GNH and citizenship without losing out on individual happiness. This is perhaps the ultimate purpose of Education – a mixture of concrete and abstract, therefore, prone to controversies and finger pointing for almost every organizational, societal or national failure. In other words, Education is not straightforward, therefore, not always justified to point fingers at the education system or the players within the system, or fair to hold school teachers and principals solely responsible for creating a desired society. They need active cooperation and support of parents and other stakeholders.
In terms of measurement, the ‘concrete’ as per my understanding ends at the output level (facilities and services), while their worthiness is assessed at the outcome level in terms of effectiveness in people’s and organizations’ actions and at the impact level in terms of improvement in people’s lives. This provides better meaning and sense to ‘good governance’ (focus on effectiveness, whether public or private or civil society) and ‘socioeconomic progress’ (focus on impact at both the national and individual levels), both of which require capable, morally sound and happy individuals.
‘Happiness,’ is, therefore, as much a required element in the processes of organizations, societies and government as a desired end (in other words, sustained status) for individuals, communities and the nation. At whatever level we discuss happiness, it’s people’s happiness that we’re talking about rather than the happiness of materials, however, the healthy functioning of the latter and good relationship among people are definitely sources of happiness while at work. From this point of view, I look at the four pillars - socio economic equity, cultural preservation, good governance and environmental conservation – as sources of GNH for Bhutan. Their sustainability should ensure the country’s GNH. And, a sustained GNH in my view would provide a continued source for development of people's happiness.
• should NOT make people selfish or greedy and be led into exploitation and deprivation of others’ happiness (in the guise of employment opportunity, poverty alleviation, GNH pillars, etc) from ‘human rights’ point of view.
• should NOT make us lose connection with family, friends, community and society from ‘citizenship’ point of view.
I believe each of us is as much a member of family, friends, community, and society as much as a citizen and an individual. Everybody knows that, but many may not necessarily pay attention to all of it, therefore, look at happiness as ‘subjective’ when in actual fact it makes better sense as a combination of (rather balance between) subjective and relative. To be able to embody all these roles in ONE is the challenge of GNH and citizenship without losing out on individual happiness. This is perhaps the ultimate purpose of Education – a mixture of concrete and abstract, therefore, prone to controversies and finger pointing for almost every organizational, societal or national failure. In other words, Education is not straightforward, therefore, not always justified to point fingers at the education system or the players within the system, or fair to hold school teachers and principals solely responsible for creating a desired society. They need active cooperation and support of parents and other stakeholders.
In terms of measurement, the ‘concrete’ as per my understanding ends at the output level (facilities and services), while their worthiness is assessed at the outcome level in terms of effectiveness in people’s and organizations’ actions and at the impact level in terms of improvement in people’s lives. This provides better meaning and sense to ‘good governance’ (focus on effectiveness, whether public or private or civil society) and ‘socioeconomic progress’ (focus on impact at both the national and individual levels), both of which require capable, morally sound and happy individuals.
‘Happiness,’ is, therefore, as much a required element in the processes of organizations, societies and government as a desired end (in other words, sustained status) for individuals, communities and the nation. At whatever level we discuss happiness, it’s people’s happiness that we’re talking about rather than the happiness of materials, however, the healthy functioning of the latter and good relationship among people are definitely sources of happiness while at work. From this point of view, I look at the four pillars - socio economic equity, cultural preservation, good governance and environmental conservation – as sources of GNH for Bhutan. Their sustainability should ensure the country’s GNH. And, a sustained GNH in my view would provide a continued source for development of people's happiness.
May you find continued happiness in Losar.
I think measurement of GNH has instigated much discussion. At times I wonder we'd better leave it as a halo of guiding development philosophy around our development plans and programmes rather than try to dissect it and cause unintended injuries in the process!
ReplyDeleteThanks for your comment, Dawa. I'd like to know what 'unintended injuries' you're referring to and how you can say GNH is better left as a halo when schools are already working on its dissection?
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ReplyDeleteHis Majesty the Fourth Druk Gyalpo declared that Gross National Happiness is more important than Gross Domestic Product in the 1970s. If it had aroused the ire of many economists then, it has racked the brains of many thinkers, political as well as academic, today and is gaining currency worldwide. Gross National Happiness, notwithstanding that happiness is a state of mind and subjective, is the guiding philosophy of Bhutan’s development process.
ReplyDeleteNeedless to say, happiness is doubtless subjective or relative. Until few years ago, this used to be on the lips of everybody - both foreigners and home-grown - who spoke about GNH. Now I think it's changed a bit, not necessarily because there has been an in-depth study and analysis. Happiness Index is, of course, one such study.
My own personal view is that anything that is subjective or relative in nature cannot be fully understood, grasped and translated into action.
GNH aphorism is indisputable in itself. I respect it, everybody does and only should. It's still called "a guiding development philosophy". And my view is it should remain as such. We cannot fiddle about it much. As you might know, there is a common saying which goes like this:If you play with the fire, it will die (we're not stoking up)....I burnt the other couplet. It's irrelevant here.
Unintended injuries could include, inter alia, dissipation, loss in the credibility of and respect for the aphorism. We know there is a halo around a religious figure or stupa or ku or debri, and we bow in awe. We do not question or analyze it. What is happening may be loosely likened to a case of looking for a needle in a haystack! But then again it'll depend on how far it is taken and/or how it's taken. I admit I myself do not know much about how and what's going to be infused into the curriculum.
Incidentally, I cannot help but wonder how successful this policy will be in the context of unhappy teachers on the move out from the teaching profession!
I certainly cast no aspersions on the policy or anyone who is into or for it. Dissipation in translation is my apprehension! I'm afraid such an action may not be foolproof, with due respect to all. There is also the risk of making it too mundane. Why can we not leave it as an awe-inspiring halo and work or revolve within its perimeter!
Good luck!
I look back on what I wrote and sort of find that I've emphasized more on happiness, but then is it not correct? If we are infusing just the pillars of GNH into the curriculum, then I think it's possible. But if we are delving further to dissect each pillar and establish how each pillar will contribute to happiness, I daresay we may never arrive at our destination! That said let me once again concede that I'm not aware about what and how it's going to be done. So this may be a load of bullshit only.
ReplyDeleteLovely article. Lovelier reply/ies.
ReplyDeleteI think GNH should have only one pillar... Good Governance. Everything else is an offshoot of GG. We will be duped anytime even if the other 3 is going on strong but this one core value is quite weak.
How do we explain Haiti to our students in terms of GNH post Jan 12, 2010? What role does GNH play if such calamity were to strike Bhutan? Is happiness as in smiles or bouts of laughter or tears shed? Or is it all about staring at the ceiling and thanking your good grace that one is leading a better life than others around you? Some questions, among many, that keep haunting me.
I am not sure why we seek GNH as a destination. We should have more tangible goals, and GNH should just be a part of that journey, and yet again, not a destination... for, to me, it's like striving to get something which is at the other end of the universe.
I followed a link in CBS about GNH survey and did not like it at all for the sheer fact that they tried to portray GNH on the basis of a survey (that's Statistics, not Economics) and almost every page seemed to contain the word, (or a disclaimer) 'subjective'.
If I sound like a fool, its because my ignorance is at its best and I only implore you all to enlighten me.
Dear Dawa and Tongyal,
ReplyDeleteThank you very much for responding to my post and comment. I'm just glad that you have shown interest in the subject despite its abstractness. I really have no answers nor any way of further clarification as I am among those many who are simply trying to explore the subject out of personal interest, even if it leads to dissection. I do not believe it is only the work of natural science to dissect, but rather find it even more necessary in the social sciences to dissect the abstract into concrete bits, such as what is meant by 'love,' 'respect,' 'relationship' 'need' 'want' etc. I think we sometimes take some things for granted and end up in a mess to only find out too late that we had either misunderstood or not understood at all. As it is said, "little knowledge is dangerous." For instance, just look at the way some of us play with the term 'freedom' just because it is associated with democracy. We don't even know what it really means to have freedom. We don't even realize some nations have fought hard for 'freedom.' We think we can say anything and point fingers at anyone in the name of freedom of speech. What about authenticity and objectivity? What about looking into our ownselves objectively? Are we all that we expect from others? Aren't we expecting too much from others and not doing much ourselves? As an American President had once said, "Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country."
Similarly, isn't there a need to understand GNH -even as a philosophy or ideology - to be able to talk and walk GNH as confidently and correctly as possible? When Bhutanese travel to other countries, it is with pride and confidence that we need to be able to talk about GNH. Can we afford to say "Sorry, I don't know what it means"? I have said it to an Indian here in Thimphu and been very embarrassed. I have heard a Bhutanese talk about it confidently to a group of foreigners in Singapore and it made me proud to be a Bhutanese.
Gosh! I hope I didn't stray too far.
Understanding GNH and dissecting GNH, in my view, are not the same although they are related. Many of us know what GNH is. It's happiness and its dissection that we may not be able to grasp fully. Best of luck anyway!
ReplyDeleteI think 'dissection' is required to some extent at least to be able to understand anything. In fact, 'analysis' is quite the same as 'dissection' in my opinion. Even Buddhism is under dissection today more than ever before to make modern people understand it correctly and follow Buddhist principles correctly. We have more and more Buddhist Masters visiting our country and explaining to us in practical terms what Buddhism is all about. So many questions are answered, but, of course, not all of us would grasp them in the same way or at the same level. The 'gap' has to be filled by ourselves proactively. I could attend numerous workshops and still not learn anything extra if my mind isn't in it.
ReplyDeleteThanks for wishing me luck. I think I need it.
Well, a gold piece in hand will attract attention. But you know the consequences if it turns out to be anything but gold. Which I hope is not the case with our issue here.
ReplyDeleteWell, people do ask me about it and I say 'I don't know', 'cos really I don't know.
I 'll have to dig some more books to be able to sing proudly about it:)Otherwise, the religion I follow itself is one blind faith too many. haha!
As much as I'm pleased to espouse your argument, I'm afraid I beg to differ, for I know we'll agree to differ in the end. And that's how we have ended many of our earlier discussions, haven't we so?
ReplyDeleteAnalysis is no doubt akin to dissection. However, my point is this: the need for dissection in the context of the subject and its socio-economic hierarchy. I'm not a Buddhist if I'm engulfed in the ignorance of a Hog in the year of Tiger and disagree that Buddhism is being "dissected", so to speak. In a strict sense of the word, I think, it's not a "dissection". Not even "analysis", strictly. But yes, both, loosely. To fight or to prevent or to pre-empt loss of interest in Buddhism and/or loss of Buddhism in this degenerate era, in this day and age of science and technology, there are noteworthy endeavours to simplify Buddhism. This may not be "dissection", neither "analysis". Keeping the root, essence intact, Buddhism is being updated to make it more relevant for today, for today's generation. Buddhist masters are making Buddhism in sync with today's generation, lest Buddhism becomes extinct and they lose their livelihood (with due respect and a tad jocularity). It may also be an indirect way of making today's fast-track population more absorbent of Buddhism.
I think one simple example of, I daresay, modernization of Buddhism could be seen in those huge prayer wheels at the Memorial Chorten. Earlier wholly hand-rotated, now they rotate on bearings. So less effort, less sweat. Any child going around them can just push/pull in passing (literally). Of course, it'd also depend on how well or often they are greased.
I may be myopic, but I sometimes fear that too much simplification of Buddhism may backfire and be counterproductive. This is what I see happening, imperceptibly but surely though, with our traditional social hierarchy - which engenders our unique social set-up. We bow less and higher today than before in this 'hi-bye society'. Too much simplification may render Buddhism mundane and base. This surely means loss of respect. Needless to say, who'd love to aspire for something that's not respected. Again, yes, we enjoy doing things that are bad! But it's a sinful thought to think this may be consolation!
I'm personally certainly for dissection of the pillars of GNH, as said earlier, but not happiness and GNH as such. But then it's complex, I know.
In a nutshell, some things are best left as they are. Anything or anyone cannot be taken at face value nowadays, especially in this day and age when explosive can be so penetrative that it finds a safe haven in the groin! Everything should be scrutinized. But this brings me to a Bhutanese saying: Don't look for edges in egg. Some things cannot be scrutinized for obvious reasons. Miss Perfect and Prince Charming cannot investigate into their parents' sexual history.
Best of luck!!!
If only GNH were gold (literally), people would scramble to get a piece of it by hook or crook. It isn’t, however, I’d like to believe it holds value unmatched by gold. To give it a face value or even think about it in face value terms is to devalue it. So, Dawa, we’re not dealing with face value here, we’re dealing with something that has immeasurable depth and, of course, if it were a treasure chest (literally) at the bottom of the deepest ocean, people would learn diving to get a handful of the treasure. It isn’t, however, it is in itself a treasure that cannot be grasped by the stretch of your hand but rather with the stretching of your mind. It’s sad, indeed, that knowledge and learning is reduced to an object with utility power in concrete terms when life and living itself is not concrete but mostly abstract. We think we understand life and take it for granted and then curse all external factors when we are in trouble. We do not even realize we harm our ownselves and close doors to our own future when we abuse drugs, for instance. Yet, we think we know what we’re doing and that we’re doing the right thing, which we are under the impression that we are doing to the drugs rather than to ourselves. Isn’t it better to light a candle than to curse the dark? Isn’t it better to be certain of the gold in the hand than to curse the one who placed it in your hand when you discover it isn’t so, Tongyal? Why does everything have to be a predetermined this or that? Why can’t it be an exploration? Isn’t exploration much more exciting than taking for granted that which appears but isn’t so, Dawa? Yes, Tongyal, we can be honest about not knowing about GNH but should it stop at that? Can’t we be motivated to learn about it? At least as an educator by profession, I believe we must ‘learn before teaching.’ Educators/Teachers are not all-knowing as many view them. They cannot be in the fast changing world of today with new information and knowledge produced at the press of a button. They are as much learners and explorers in the journey of a child’s learning. In this context, I’d like to believe GNH is an explorative subject that can never be static but adjustable to changing times. If it is to be treated like a halo above the head, then there is no need for our government to conduct workshops or create GNH schools and we have to then wonder how our Lyonchen recognized that other nations were ahead of us in taking GNH seriously! And, by the way, Dawa, I don’t know how trying to understand GNH can be equated with investigation into the sexual history of the parents of the Miss Perfect and Prince Charming… And, anybody trying to look for edges in an egg is stupid. GNH cannot be equated with the appearance of an egg either! By appearance, it would more appropriately be a hall with pillars –take out one pillar and the whole hall comes tumbling down.
ReplyDeleteIt's an analogy.
ReplyDeleteI agree anything cannot be static, everything should change to time seasonality. But I think nobody would like GNH to change every so often that in the not-too-distant future we have eight pillars! Or that there is an overhaul.
Exploration may be exciting, but I do not know if every exploration guarantees an equally exciting or profitable find. Destination may not be always tasty. We may go off the road.
Workshops may be to understand GNH, not necessarily to dissect GNH. Halo is there, it's not emptiness. GNH can be a halo of a profound guiding development philosophy comprising four pillars.
GNH is not being equated to an egg. It's a comparison. By comparing to an egg, I intended to convey something like your last sentence. We scrutinize everything, and we end up with nothing, for nothing lasts at long last!
Well, Dawa, change doesn't necessarily mean addition, mena? The number of pillars could still be four but adapted to changing times and our ever expanding connectedness to the outside world (unless we choose to reverse back to isolation).
ReplyDeleteI still insist that understanding GNH would require certain extent of dissection with a positive connotation analogous to a medical student dissecting a human body to understand the system of internal organs.
No exploration can guarantee a profitable end but what's imporant is the journey we go through in the exploration. Just explore with courage.
Halo is a creation of the mind. It does not really exist and has nothing much to do with us common people except in putting our faith in the spiritual people we believe to have the halo above their heads. It's purely holy, while GNH is practical and in the here and now as much as in the future. Listening to our Prime Minister's speeches/addresses on GNH, it is clearly conveyed to the world that people must limit their materialistic desires and instead be content with the basics. This is the message I get at least (unless misunderstood) and I wonder how and when people are going to be convinced about this. Some would argue against it and some others for it, depending on individual belief systems. I would like to be convinced too but I must first understand the philosophy to its minutest atomic detail. But then that's me.
Oh,I agree wholeheartedly that change is not always addition. It's my addition that it's also not always subtraction. Multiplication is involved, so is division.
ReplyDeletePillars may remain the same, numerically at least. I tend to think likewise. Their meaning and substance may change along with our development needs but keeping the core structure intact. Mindful of what I said in the second para of my last comment, I'd now say that, as long as we continue to revolve around the premise of sustainability and middle path approach to development,we may afford to have any number of pillars. I've no doubt that you know very well for sure that the number of the pillars may not be of the essence. Instead, what they are based on, what they portray may be of the essence. So understanding the pillars is undeniably paramount and necessary, but then again it may be unnecessary to understand minutely. I fear that when we examine something very minutely, we find fault with it.
"Halo is a creation of the mind." I do not disagree because I'm so ordinary that I do not actually see it around any surviving Rinpoche. I do not agree because if I do, I'm committing a mortal sin that will fast-forward me straight to hell even before I die, for it may be akin to questioning or cross-checking or doubting if Guru actually lived. Who saw him? Who met him? Yes, he visited Bumthang and met His consort Khando Tashi Kyidon at Kuje. Kuje is around 2 hours drive from my birthplace. Did my ancestors who lived at the time see Guru? My parents do not tell me this. Maybe they forgot, or maybe it was not passed on.
Anyway this is only jocularity. I know you'll think this: many a true word is spoken in jest.
I'm a devout buddhist, not a doubting Thomas when it comes to Buddhism. It reminds me of what 'The Divine Madman' said: thorn has no place in feet; dust has no place in eyes; joke/lie has no place in Dharma; and so many.....(sadly, I do not remember offhand. I'm not very sure if what I've quoted are fully right).
Happy weekend!
But, Dawa, finding fault isn't bad. It creates space for improvement and I'm sure nothing is perfect in this world - neither people nor people's creations. Fearing is inhibiting ourselves to the possibilities in life and life is then only partly lived. We have evidence of people's imperfect creations, right? For instance, we think we need to build a house just for shelter - at least that's how it began in the early times - but we know now they must be resilient to natural calamities as well. Is it possible? I think people will explore possibilities - maybe those in Japan, where we already see beautiful real looking female robots created for whatever purpose. Nothing is a sure or granted thing as you pointed out in your earlier comment, but the least we can do with unguaranteed things is explore them for possibilities. Even if we reach nowhere, the journey would’ve taught us many lessons. I think it’s unfair to discourage people from digging into GNH. People have a right to it and a right to access all information related to GNH. Why be suspicious? Better we build trust. I only hope to be able to help others understand GNH as an educator at heart and also bring to the surface clear lines of connection between GNH and individual happiness. My mission is positive.
ReplyDeleteRegarding my religious orientation, I am a Buddhist by birth and do not hesitate to tell myself and others that I am embarrassed from calling myself a Buddhist when I cannot follow Buddhist teachings. Having said that, I believe if we are human enough we are religious and my schemata can accommodate only Siddharth Gautama Buddha’s teachings that are related to the four noble truths clearly observable in our day to day lives.
In response to your quote from ‘The Divine Madman,’ the fact is thorn does get into our feet; dust does get into our eyes; Dharma is a lie/joke to the unbelievers; etc …..It is upto our senses and cautiousness to NOT allow these unpleasantries to occur…
Finding fault is one thing, finding fault in something especially in the context of what that something is quite another thing. We can easily find a fault in any ordinary monk, for instance. But it's a herculean task, and must be acknowledged so, to find a fault in a Boddhisattva. Analogy.
ReplyDeleteYou're Buddhist, so am I. Needless to say, you know very well anyone can be Buddhist without having been ordained as a monk or nun in monasteries. We know welfare/fellow-feeling/good intention/altruism is the essence of Buddhism. A born farmer who lives on the farm could die with his ploughshare and a whip in his hand behind a pair of oxen. He was Buddhist, could be a devout Buddhist! I do not know what makes you embarrased. I think I'll read "What makes you not Buddhist".
Do the "senses and cautiousness" embarras you? I do not know, and this is not a question for you.
Do we have to be ordained a monk or nun to NOT tell lies; NOT steal; etc? (the virtues)
ReplyDeleteI don't think so...
Hi,
ReplyDeleteI rush to state that your latest comment bears me out on the risks, as I see, of dissecting or scrutinizing everything. We are human first, we are Buddhist second. To err is human. If we scrutinize every Buddhist for the virtues you've listed, especially lies, then I think I can confidently count Buddhist on my fingers! Who knows my fingers may outnumber! Lies are of varied genres - some are pure lies, some strategic, some destructive, some harmless, some expedient, etc. Yes, all lies. Everybody tells lies, but not all lies are harmful. And some beings can channel lies into merits. What is not virtuous in the eyes of an ordinary being can be virtuous for an extraordinaire being.
As a young, naughty boy my mother would come after me brandishing a shining zencha, frying pan on the oven.One egg was missing. The yolk was a yoke on my alimentary canal. But I blamed it on our cat! I was Buddhist. I'm Buddhist.
So if this a criterion, then we have no Buddhist. Not only lies, there are so many other non-virtuous acts in the eyes of ordinary beings committed by virtuous beings.
I have to admit, Dawa, that from your point of view and Dzongsar Khyentse Rinpoche's point of view, my having a dualisitc view of good and bad and moral and immoral makes me NOT a Buddhist. I think this is because I was under the influence of Catholic Fathers and Nuns and moral stories that emphasized moral and immoral - not to say that we managed to become moral. We have our imperfections - no doubt and thinking about it too much perhaps makes us too attached to the thought and, therefore, NOT a Buddhist again. I think it is our focus that's wrong rather than our thinking per se.
ReplyDeleteHowever, by the same teachings of Dzongsar Khyentse Rinpoche, I'm right in saying that we may not necessarily be a Buddhist by virtue of our wearing a monk's or nun's robe or shaving the head. To give an example of what vexes me, I have seen people circumbulating the chhorten, reciting mantras loudly with a rosary in hand, cruelly kick a dog in the midst of his/her prayers. I guess I have a problem with 'hypocrisy' rather than being or not being a Buddhist. I guess I also have a problem with our audacity to call ourselves Buddhists without a good understanding of what it means to be a Buddhist. Dzongsar Khyentse Rinpoche himself has said, "It's not the ceremonies you perform, or the meditation you do" that makes you a Buddhist. Don't you think it is mainly our ceremonies/rituals that make many of us believe we are Buddhists? And, if we did actually become aware of and believed in impermanence and followed this principle, GNH would be non existent too. We would then be following Thich Nhat Hanh's principle of living in the now, such as happily sipping our cup of tea in the morning and not worrying about tomorrow or the future, or the past. I think I quite like this and what you have argued with me about make better sense now. So, you know what? Our interaction - no matter how bitter it may have at times sounded - has actually brought wisdom to my life. So, thank you...I'll, of course, not stop pursuing learning about GNH but will definitely not become attached to it lest I miss out on enjoying my cup of tea. May you enjoy yours too...ciaiao
Hi,
ReplyDeleteIf I make you 'Not Buddhist', then it's my problem, not yours; if His Eminence Dzongsar Khyentse Rinpoche makes you 'Not Buddhist', then it's your problem, not His Eminence's. If you can equate my views with those of Rinpoche, then there is little doubt that I'm Buddhist. But it does not make you 'Not Buddhist', it's not mutually exclusive. I cannot claim to be more Buddhist than you.
As much as you, I've this problem of hypocrisy. I think it's only human nature. Yes, as rightly pointed out it's a bit uncomfortable and incompatible to kick a dog while circumambulating a chorten, chanting with a rosary in hand and nosily munching on doma. Besides, we all know what we discuss in-between. Pity that the thumb is in the dark, on the sidelines, and it keeps on pulling the beads. Counting!
I'm in agreement with you in toto as regards what we think makes us Buddhist. I think it's here where there is a confusion over Buddhism and Bonism.
It'd be to our advantage to keep learning about GNH. Home-grown analysts will grasp the true meaning of a home-grown concept better than any outsider. We'll study it from a better vantage point, no doubt. Just as it would be wrong for us to consider a person with a kid to be married and a liar to be not Buddhist, as much wrong it may be to stop learning about GNH saying happiness is subjective and relative. Here too I agree with you. Subjectivity should not shroud the pillars.
I'm deaf to anything that's sounds bitter, just as I'm blind to anything that's not attractive.
I don't enjoy tea. Thanks a lot for the interesting discussion.
Gosh! I hope you see ME when I happen to be right in front of your eyes some day. Ha ha
ReplyDeleteAnother uncommonality between us - I enjoy tea; you don't. hee hee